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Soaring Inauguration Costs Could Break DC "Bank"

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Soaring costs expected to accompany huge crowds in town for the Jan. 20 inauguration of Barack Obama could stick cash-strapped Washington, D.C., with a record-breaking bill for services.

Security and capacity measures recommended by the District's congressional delegate Eleanor Holmes Norton and others will almost certainly surpass the $15 million the federal government gives to the District each year to defray the cost of events, Norton said.

In 2005, with an estimated 300,000 in attendance, the second inauguration of President Bush cost the city more than $17 million, some of which was reimbursed with federal funds. This year, officials estimate nearly five times that many people for the swearing in of President-elect Barack Obama.

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{"commentId":4123245,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

So, will Washington be next in the TARP line?

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  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:48 AM EST
{"commentId":4125689,"authorDomain":"neoconstant"}

Hey, not fair, I wanted to be next in the TARP line!  I have a credit card that I'd rather not pay.  Can't the government pay it for me?

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  • 3 votes
#1.1 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:15 PM EST
{"commentId":4442609,"authorDomain":"eric24"}

5 times as much... this is pathetic. Guess who going to flip the bill for that?! Us Taxpayers! I bet not 1 dime will come from Obama's 3/4 of a Billion dollar campaign fund! Mr. I promote change and get rid of pork spending, etc etc. What would you call this? Face it.. Obama bought the election. Outspent mccain over 3 times the amount of money. Broke promises on the campaign trail. I think this ends the public financing system now. I doubt the Republicans will dare not make that mistake next time around. We should have stricter campaign funding limits to make it more fair. This was the most unfair, distasteful election I have personally witnessed. It was like a mass brainwashing campaign.

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  • 1 vote
#1.2 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:24 PM EST
{"commentId":4455379,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}

5 times as much...

Not quite.  5 times as many.

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  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:25 PM EST
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{"commentId":4123520,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

Might be time for more work from those untraceable prepaid credit cards. I'm thinking no one on the Obama team will question the source . . . again.

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  • 5 votes
Reply#2 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:06 AM EST
{"commentId":4442640,"authorDomain":"eric24"}

Obama is to big of an elitist and ego maniac to scale it back. He literally acts like the biggest celebrity on Earth. Thats not what we need in Washington... a big head. How about a little modesty to go along with the "CHANGE" eh?!

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  • 2 votes
#2.1 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:27 PM EST
{"commentId":4442737,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

Not possible. I believe he'll arrive by train. I really think under the current economic circumstances some frugality should be exercised. But, the ostentatious will out.

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  • 1 vote
#2.2 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:36 PM EST
{"commentId":4443048,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
Joe RadmacherDeleted
{"commentId":4443076,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

Joe, feel free to repost without the insults.  I welcome your thoughts, but it is not necessary to cloak them in the "R" word.

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  • 1 vote
#2.4 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:14 PM EST
{"commentId":4443087,"authorDomain":"eric24"}

I'm not a closet racist. If I hated him on color, I'd be a racist against myself then wouldn't I? Hes 50 percent Black, 50 White. I'm white. Now I wonder if Obama getting 90 percent of the Black vote was racist or not. Heh. Gee I wonder...

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    #2.5 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:16 PM EST
    {"commentId":4443092,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

    ElliePhat, you have no right to delete what I just said.  I am going to bring this up to the attention of the Newsvine management.  I have every right to use the word racist!

    {"commentId":4443092,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
    • 1 vote
    #2.6 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:16 PM EST
    {"commentId":4443127,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

    Joe, whatever you decide to report to Newsvine, I respect your right to do so.  But, please reread their posts.  There is no mention of race whatsoever.  Why would you even go there?  It's unrelated to the seed and even to the thread.  Unfortunately, I didn't get to it quickly enough.

    {"commentId":4443127,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
      #2.7 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:19 PM EST
      {"commentId":4443174,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

      I have reported it to newsvine and if you hadn't deleted my post you could have understood it was conjecture and not stated in a demeaning way.  What rule did you use to delete it?

      {"commentId":4443174,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
        #2.8 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:23 PM EST
        {"commentId":4443186,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

        Okay, I've also asked them to take a look.

        {"commentId":4443186,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
          #2.9 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:24 PM EST
          {"commentId":4443224,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

          Pulling the race card was the Obama team's earliest and most dastardly stunt to shut down criticism.

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          • 1 vote
          #2.10 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:28 PM EST
          {"commentId":4443263,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

          It is obvious that this post was started by people that don't like Obama or are sore losers and no debate is welcome.  Maybe Michelle can save some money and buy some of the clothes Palin devoted to charity.  Now that was a waste of money.

          {"commentId":4443263,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
          • 1 vote
          #2.11 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:31 PM EST
          {"commentId":4443298,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

          So, Joe, do you have an opinion about the cost of this particular inauguration and its impact to the District? 

          {"commentId":4443298,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
          • 1 vote
          #2.12 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:35 PM EST
          {"commentId":4455226,"authorDomain":"tyler"}

          2.3 can stay deleted - it's an appropriate amount of off-topic and inflammatory and ElliePhat's defense at 2.4 is pretty cogent.

          {"commentId":4455226,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"tyler"}
          • 2 votes
          #2.13 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:08 PM EST
          {"commentId":4460055,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

          I feel an obligation to write this article about Obama and the racism that still plagues our country today.  I have read hundreds of articles about Obama and have read the associated blogs and there are a thousands maybe millions of people that just hate Obama.    I received one very nasty email from one Newsvine member that sent me an email after requesting to be my friend that stated the following “hopefully obama will win. then we can have the joy of watching that muslim sympathizing baby killing  idiot gunned down! what a glorious day that will be!”.  I was shocked and appalled when I received this email.  After I received it I did look at this persons profile and previous comments she has made on Newsvine and I found a whole group of people that made it a priority to bash Obama every chance they had.  I challenged some of these people and groups of people if they might be doing this because of closet racism.  I asked this question on a post just to have it deleted by one of the Obama haters club who was moderating a post.  This article was about the impact and cost of the Inauguration.  One individual in particular had been leaving some very hateful post about Obama every chance they had.  I poised this question on the blog “How many people of the people bashing Obama on this post are closet racist?”  Of course the moderator was one of the Obama haters so she immediately deleted the post. 

           

          I was upset about the censorship so I contacted Newsvine only to have one moderator stand up for another moderator.  They stated that the comment was inflammatory and off subject.  I disagree completely, when a group of people are bashing Obama off subject and in an inflammatory fashion that is ok with the moderator and those comments do not get deleted.  This is a double standard and pure censorship.  I hope the Newsvine management will not let this type of censorship take over one of the very best blogs on the Internet.  I am not going to stop and let two moderators silence my voice.  I believe it is a very good question for people to ask themselves if they are not criticizing him because of race.  I think that all of us need to be reminded now and again how some of our maladaptive behavior can effect our lives and those around us.         

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          • 1 vote
          #2.14 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:45 AM EST
          {"commentId":4460505,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

          Joe,

          I am sorry you feel this way.  You picked the wrong seed to handle this subject.  You cannot hold others responsible for the lunatic rantings of a hater.  You compound the problem by assuming and accusing others of being guilty of those thoughts.

          Perhaps you should ask yourself why you are so unable to tolerate criticism of Obama.  For the record, I have been complimentary of some of his cabinet picks.  I am not an "Obama hater" as you wrongly accuse.  Does the phrase "agree to disagree" mean anything to you?  Are you capable of doing as you say in your bio -- respecting opposing views?

          Frankly, Tyler has more important things to do, so unless this escalates, I will not be calling him in, nor will I be collapsing your remark.

          Have a nice day, Joe.  Enjoy it.

          {"commentId":4460505,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
            #2.15 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:19 AM EST
            {"commentId":4461288,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

            Ellie,

            I am tolerant of people that criticize Obama when they give a good reason for it.  When they do it just for the fun of it or/and don't give a reason then I point it out to them.  What I don't like is people deleting other people's posts for not being on subject and inflammatory but let others do it if they agree with them.  If you went and deleted all of the posts on this seed that are inflamatory on off subject you would at least be consistent.

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              #2.16 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:12 AM EST
              {"commentId":4462268,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

              ElliePhat,

              For the record I have gotten on pro Obama moderators that delete people's post that they don't agree with too.  If you will look at my history you will see that I have gotten on moderators on both sides of this issue about censorship.

              {"commentId":4462268,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                #2.17 - Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:11 AM EST
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                {"commentId":4124429,"authorDomain":"mariacowan888"}

                Why does America need this pagentry with its huge price tag.  It doesnt happen in other countries when their leaders are elected.

                Maybe this would be a good time "For Change" by the new administration.

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                • 2 votes
                Reply#3 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:02 PM EST
                {"commentId":4124606,"authorDomain":"sacheson"}

                What a novel concept.  I think it should happen.  "Change" was elected.  Now CHANGE must happen. 

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                • 3 votes
                #3.1 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:14 PM EST
                {"commentId":4125360,"authorDomain":"ejcanavan"}

                I certainly agree. This really isn't needed to be a huge ceremony. We know he will be taking office so what's the big deal ? I can see having officials there to oversee his swear-in but over $15 million .... seriously ? As said before, hit up your supporters again and they will pay for it, even though there are much more important issues to be worried about right now. If there is such a huge threat to his safety why on earth would they make this an even bigger production than any other President has ever had ?

                {"commentId":4125360,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ejcanavan"}
                • 3 votes
                #3.2 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:56 PM EST
                {"commentId":4126857,"authorDomain":"abcrow"}

                I agree too. Scale it back.

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                • 5 votes
                #3.3 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 2:22 PM EST
                {"commentId":4127682,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

                It's almost unseemly to throw a huge fete in this economic environment.

                {"commentId":4127682,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
                • 6 votes
                #3.4 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:13 PM EST
                {"commentId":4132218,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

                It's brazen, as is Obama's decision to surround himself with long-time insiders and lobbyists. This points to Obama's poor judgment.

                {"commentId":4132218,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
                • 1 vote
                #3.5 - Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:37 PM EST
                {"commentId":4443082,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                Just because some of you don't think it should be a big affair doesn't mean the millions of other Americans can't wait to see it.  I can't believe the amount of negative people in this point.

                {"commentId":4443082,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                • 1 vote
                #3.6 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:15 PM EST
                {"commentId":4443240,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

                They can see it on TV or the internet and save untold millions, including energy costs.

                {"commentId":4443240,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
                • 1 vote
                #3.7 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:30 PM EST
                {"commentId":4444649,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                Backroads,

                After looking though your history it is clear that you have made a major part of your life cutting down Obama.  You should have eight years to enjoy it.

                {"commentId":4444649,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                  #3.8 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:30 AM EST
                  {"commentId":4444798,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

                  So you choose this article to vent? Again, you're just aching for controversy. Hope you don't mind if I don't review your contributions. And no, a major part of my life is not here.

                  {"commentId":4444798,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
                    #3.9 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:59 AM EST
                    {"commentId":4444937,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                    We can just agree to disagree, but in the end you have to look in the mirror just like I do.

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                    • 1 vote
                    #3.10 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:36 AM EST
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                    {"commentId":4443105,"authorDomain":"eric24"}

                    Well apparently the Democratic Party sure wants a PARTY!

                    {"commentId":4443105,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"eric24"}
                      Reply#4 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:17 PM EST
                      {"commentId":4443234,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                      It is obvious that the person that started this post, ElliePhat only wanted people who are against Obama.  Anyone who had a different opinion will be deleted.  It is an American tradition that many people want to celebrate.  I am all for debating but this post was just begging and baiting hatred.

                      {"commentId":4443234,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                        Reply#5 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:29 PM EST
                        {"commentId":4443430,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

                        Silly me.  I actually thought the seed was about the impact to DC of the inauguration and how we might pay for it.  Bear in mind, Joe, had the tables been turned in the election, the story would probably have been the same (though the dollars would have been lower b/c the attendance would have been lower).

                        {"commentId":4443430,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
                        • 1 vote
                        #5.1 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:49 PM EST
                        {"commentId":4443510,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                        Obama is to big of an elitist and ego maniac to scale it back. He literally acts like the biggest celebrity on Earth. Thats not what we need in Washington... a big head. How about a little modesty to go along with the "CHANGE" eh?!

                        And is this one of your people debating about the impact to DC of the inaguaration and how we might pay for it?  Silly me

                        {"commentId":4443510,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                          #5.2 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:57 PM EST
                          {"commentId":4443547,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

                          Point taken, Joe, although at least that does relate to the size of the event.  I've been looking at recent stories on this topic, though, and it seems the planners are really struggling with striking the right tone.

                          And, the real impact to DC's budget is huge.  I can only imagine how I'd feel if my city hosted this event every four years.

                          {"commentId":4443547,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
                            #5.3 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:01 PM EST
                            {"commentId":4443636,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                            I agree that this does present a problem.  I don't think it is an excuse for people to rip Obama apart.  I would be really happy if people would realize we are all Americans instead of Red and Blue and together without all of this hate and division.

                            {"commentId":4443636,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                            • 1 vote
                            #5.4 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:10 PM EST
                            {"commentId":4443694,"authorDomain":"coachvint"}

                            I would be really happy if people would realize we are all Americans instead of Red and Blue and together without all of this hate and division.

                            Joe,

                            Did you feel the same way for the last eight years? It seems like so many people who ripped George Bush now expect everyone to embrace Obama.

                            {"commentId":4443694,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"coachvint"}
                            • 1 vote
                            #5.5 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:15 PM EST
                            {"commentId":4443747,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

                            Joe, I agree.  That's exactly why I balked at the racism innuendo.  It's one thing to criticize Obama here (or to defend him, for that matter), but another to impute motives to posters out of whole cloth.

                            {"commentId":4443747,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
                              #5.6 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:20 PM EST
                              {"commentId":4443767,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                              People were wrong to bash Bush as a person.  I don't agree with many of his decisions but I am sure he did what he thought was right.  It was hard to get behind him because of Roves slash and burn politics.  They did it to McCain in the 2000 primary and it really upset me.  I have a lot of respect for John McCain and I believe he would have been a great President back in 2000.

                              This is totally off the subject but I was really upset seeing someone throwing shoes at President Bush.  You got to give him credit he is agile.

                              {"commentId":4443767,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                              • 1 vote
                              #5.7 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:22 PM EST
                              {"commentId":4443781,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

                              Yeah...he still has a few moves!

                              {"commentId":4443781,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
                              • 1 vote
                              #5.8 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:23 PM EST
                              {"commentId":4443799,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                              ElliePhat,

                              I am sorry but I do believe some of these people are reacting the way that they are because of racism.  Can you guarantee that race isn't causing some of these hate full posts?

                              {"commentId":4443799,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                                #5.9 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:25 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4443904,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

                                I suppose because I have posted with some of them for awhile I can be reasonably certain they are being genuine in their criticisms and not racist.

                                But, no I can guarantee nothing.  Only God sees hearts.

                                It's so easy to misread people in the space of a few words.  Today, I myself was called insulting and derogatory for the careless use of an old term that some now find offensive.  It upset me greatly.  I do wish that person had taken a minute or so to check out my column to see how unlikely it was that I would deliberately hurt someone's feelings.

                                {"commentId":4443904,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
                                • 3 votes
                                #5.10 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:36 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4444017,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                                When I say the article I knew there would be Obama haters have a field day.  I was hoping I was wrong.  I was amazed how hateful the posts were.  I consider myself to be a moderate and a good judge of character.  I have been hiring people for over thirty years so I have some experience.  I do believe and pray that Obama  will be a great President.  We really need a good one now.  It would be good if people could post without all the hatred.

                                {"commentId":4444017,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                                • 1 vote
                                #5.11 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:50 PM EST
                                {"commentId":4444236,"authorDomain":"eric24"}

                                I'd like it known that I am in fact "not" a racist. I'd be saying the same things, and have the same concerns about Obama if he was white, asian, mexican, or even purple! His skin color has nothing to do with the character of man, experience, and overall morals and ethics. :)

                                {"commentId":4444236,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"eric24"}
                                • 1 vote
                                #5.12 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:17 AM EST
                                {"commentId":4444274,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

                                Joe, you're fishing for excuses to be self-righteous and to condemn.

                                {"commentId":4444274,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
                                • 1 vote
                                #5.13 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:23 AM EST
                                {"commentId":4444376,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                                Backroads,

                                Aren't you doing the same thing right now?

                                {"commentId":4444376,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                                  #5.14 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:42 AM EST
                                  {"commentId":4444490,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

                                  Frankly, I'm deriding you for looking for an excuse to pick a fight.

                                  {"commentId":4444490,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
                                  • 1 vote
                                  #5.15 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:01 AM EST
                                  {"commentId":4444572,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                                  So now you are looking for a fight?

                                  {"commentId":4444572,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                                    #5.16 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:16 AM EST
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                                    {"commentId":4443352,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                                    ElliePhat, Yes I can debate this.  When we spend billions of dollars a month on a war that shouldn't have ever been started in the first place. Shouldn't we celebrate a new president that will not go to war for the heck of it?  I know that it is going to be hard for some people to accept an intelligent president after the last eight years, I for one will be celebrating.

                                    {"commentId":4443352,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                                    • 1 vote
                                    Reply#6 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:41 PM EST
                                    {"commentId":4443543,"authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}

                                    So intelligent that he's part of a bash that rivals Wall Street excesses? I'd say that's sticking a finger in America's eye, wouldn't you? Will all that excess make him a better president? A super dooper president? This is sheer show.

                                    {"commentId":4443543,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"backroadsbubba"}
                                      #6.1 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:00 PM EST
                                      {"commentId":4443617,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                                      I bet none of you would be complaining one bit if this was John McCain's Inauguration.  

                                      What do you think Obama should do?  He has no control over the amount of people that want to come to this event.  The majority of America voted for Obama and he did create a lot of excitement.  What would you propose he should do without cutting him down as a person?

                                      {"commentId":4443617,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
                                      • 1 vote
                                      #6.2 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:07 PM EST
                                      {"commentId":4443648,"authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}

                                      Well, he is travelling by train.  I've found no updated costs/budget impact statements since The Washington Times...about this time of this original seed:

                                      "We really just don't know how much we're going to have to spend," said Mafara Hobson, spokeswoman for Mayor Adrian M. Fenty. "All we have right now is the $15 million the federal government allows us."

                                      {"commentId":4443648,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"ElliePhat"}
                                      • 2 votes
                                      #6.3 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:11 PM EST
                                      {"commentId":4443819,"authorDomain":"coachvint"}

                                       In your post above you say you never attacked bush as a person, but you did so when you said:

                                      Shouldn't we celebrate a new president that will not go to war for the heck of it

                                      Joe,

                                      George Bush did not wake up and say, "I think I want to go to war today." Now, ask the Iraqi people if they enjoy having freedom. Ask the Afghani girls who now can go to school if they are happy the Taliban is no longer in power. 

                                      For eight years you all have simply shredded George Bush. Yet, you say we should honor our new president. Why? Because he is the president, right? In all actuality, that is correct. Now, how did democrats act during the last eight years? What gives them the right to ask a republican to give BO a chance? They gave Bush nothing.

                                      I did not vote for Obama. I do wish him the best and I will fully support him. However, when I question something he does I will do so with passion and vigor. I will ask for accountability, the same way I do with all of our elected leaders. It is my philosophy that we are all Americans, and as such we should respect the office of the president, even if we may not agree with the person in charge. I served in the military under Clinton. I did not fully agree with him in many ways. But, he was the president and our commander-in-chief.

                                      I think the inauguration is becoming too much of a spectacle. Obama should be toning it down, not building it up. He should look for ways to save money, not put himself on a pedestal.

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                                      #6.4 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:27 PM EST
                                      {"commentId":4443943,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                                      Voice,

                                      I guess you didn't hear that Dick Cheney said he would have going to war in Iraq even without the faulty intelligence.  No matter how you cut it, dice it, or chop it up the war in Iraq was a terrible idea.  Hardly anyone disagrees with throwing the Taliban out but that wasn't a good excuse for going to war in Iraq.  If you watched the news today and saw the riots in Iraq with shoes the Iraqi's don't seem to be to happy with their freedom.  They are not free except in the Green Zone.  They are still not safe and there is not much we can do about it.

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                                      #6.5 - Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:40 PM EST
                                      {"commentId":4444255,"authorDomain":"eric24"}

                                      Joe - good thing Dick Cheney the VP dosen't have the power to declare war! It wasn't up to him. Was up to the President and both sides of the aisle voting on it. VP really dosen't have that many powers actually. Except maybe a tie breaker at times.

                                      {"commentId":4444255,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"eric24"}
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                                      #6.6 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:20 AM EST
                                      {"commentId":4444389,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                                      Well many people think that Dick Cheney has been running the country.  Both sides of the isle might have been sold on the war with the false intelligence and the arm twisting.  If you don't believe Cheney has power you are wearing bliinders.

                                      {"commentId":4444389,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
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                                      #6.7 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:44 AM EST
                                      {"commentId":4444628,"authorDomain":"eric24"}

                                      Joe - When is "going" to war acceptable in your mind? I would really like to know. Where you against Vietnam, Korean War, Desert Storm, etc etc. and hated the Presidents / Party involved with those as well?

                                      {"commentId":4444628,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"eric24"}
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                                      #6.8 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:27 AM EST
                                      {"commentId":4444894,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                                      War is acceptable when it is in self-defense.  Before you judge me you should understand that I am a veteran and I have served this country.  I also don't hate Bush, I just don't agree with the Iraq war.

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                                      #6.9 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:24 AM EST
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                                      {"commentId":4444406,"authorDomain":"jradmacher"}

                                      Simple,

                                      I didn't say everyone was racist, nor did I say anyone was.  I was just wondering if that wasn't the problem with all of this hate full rhetoric.  Some people don't need an excuse for being so hate full.

                                      {"commentId":4444406,"threadId":"423212","contentId":"2128154","authorDomain":"jradmacher"}
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                                      Reply#7 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:47 AM EST
                                      {"commentId":4455451,"authorDomain":"roybatty"}

                                      No where in the article did it mention how much more this will cost.  The only planned direct cost mentioned was for an additional 4,000 police officers, and there was budget for and additional 3,000.  No other direct or indirect costs were specified. 

                                      Methinks some are trying to blow this way out of proportion.

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                                      Reply#8 - Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:34 PM EST
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